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[edit] Article Suggestions

Do we have anything specific on "Honor Killings" or "Cults"? I'd like to see an article that proves Islam is a cult based on widely-accepted descriptions.--Natassia 15:18, 16 September 2009 (PDT)

I see you added something about the cult (Is Islam a cult?) but Honor related violence is on the to-do list. I thought we can 'violence' because sometimes its not killing but other violence (if they survive or some other attack). --Whale 06:49, 17 September 2009 (PDT)

Do we have anything on the Muslim Brotherhood? How about Rifqa Bary?--Natassia 20:00, 9 October 2009 (PDT)

Nope, nothing on either. --Whale 20:21, 9 October 2009 (PDT)

[edit] Another Section

Hey, the "Miscellaneous" section looks very cluttered to me. I was thinking of starting a new "Dhimmitude and Jihad" section underneath the "Mohammed" section and moving some of the miscellaneous topics there. I'd appreciate your input. selfworm 00:42, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

THE WOMAN SECTION HAS BEEN DELETED Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Women

Oops, thanks for the notice. Its back now. --Whale 04:08, 16 April 2009 (PDT) thank you
I was thinking of something like this: User:Selfworm/Sandbox. selfworm 01:14, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Sounds good to me. For the Section title, you could also try "Treatment of non-Muslims", or simply "Non-Muslims". --Whale 08:32, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
I took your advice and it looks pretty nice.selfworm 11:48, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Thanks for making the change. --Whale 16:07, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

I think it would be great when we can put "List of Abrogations" to the main page, under "Contradictions and Inconsistencies" or even General Information. What do you think? Azgyl 18:26, 24 January 2010 (PST)

Yea I added it there, thanks for the suggestion. --Whale 08:01, 25 January 2010 (PST)

[edit] Laughing with Muhammad: A collection of hilarious verses

Hey, I was wondering if we could remove the Laughing with Muhammad: A collection of hilarious verses link from the front page since the front page is beginning to become cluttered and a link is already provided under Quotations from the Quran and the Hadith. selfworm 20:14, 3 May 2007 (PDT)

I agree, although its a nice page, it should be grouped with the other quotation series you made. thanks! --Whale talk contribs 21:22, 3 May 2007 (PDT)
I have removed the link. selfworm 21:58, 3 May 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Which Section is best?

I've just finished the first draft (gotta polish it up) on Women are Deficient in Intelligence Would this go on the main page or is there a better place for it? If its yes for main page, under which category? It does talk a little bit about Quran 2:282 but isn't really about the Quran; but the ahadith. Suggestions please :) Sanitarium 05:03, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

Hi Sani, thanks for making that article. I put it under Mohammed for now because its a hadith and what Mohammed said about women. Later on when we have more articles on Women, we could create a section for Women alone. thanks again --Whale talk contribs 06:23, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Adding a section

I think adding a section called Evidence against Islam will be very useful. In it we can have various sub sections such as logic, human rights, etc. I tried adding it, but the system won't let me edit the main page. How do we do that? thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Humanityfirst (talk • contribs) (How to sign your posts)

I've added you to the list which allows you to make changes to the main page.--Whale talk contribs 12:48, 10 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Quran Text

I think we need a link to the Quran's text, so we can have it as a resource. I can see it including the canonical text by Sura, transliterations, word-for-word translations, overall translations, commentary and variants.

I've created a section Qur'an Text to contain the text of the Qur'an, translations, commentaries, etc. Please add it to the main page.

[edit] A warning section is badly needed

Its astonishing to note that for a group to claim freedom is blatantly attempting to pass WikiIslam as a resource page about Islam with out any clear warning, alerting the readers to the fact that WikiIslam is a “Faith Freedom International” effort, a group critical of Islam. In the same spirit of freedom of expression, the main page must carry a text similar to what I attempted to insert but was conveniently censored. There is no other way to describe it.

The 'warnings' are there on our FAQ page. --Whale 13:38, 15 February 2009 (PST)

"Its astonishing to note that for a group to claim freedom is blatantly attempting to pass WikiIslam as a resource page about Islam with out any clear warning, alerting the readers to the fact that WikiIslam is a “Faith Freedom International” effort, a group critical of Islam. In the same spirit of freedom of expression, the main page must carry a text similar to what I attempted to insert but was conveniently censored. There is no other way to describe it."

Agreed

Even if it was true, "blatantly attempting to pass WikiIslam as a resource page about Islam with out any clear warning", is not a violation of any principle of freedom.--Whale 16:48, 3 May 2009 (PDT)
It's an ad hom against the website to avoid dealing with the information presented on it. The FAQ clearly states that mission of Wiki Islam, and that WI presents information that Muslims (and non Muslims) may not be aware of. There is a link to the FAQ in the sidebar there. There are thousands upon thousands of sites dealing with the good things about Islam, and also dawaganda sites, but not many that deal with the less savoury texts and dogmas of Islam. This is one of those sites. If you don't like it, you are free to go back to the apologetic sites. However we source our articles so you can't claim our articles have no merit. Sanitarium 00:45, 4 May 2009 (PDT)

[edit] WikiIslam in other Language ?

does exists WikiIslam in other Language too ? I'am a Turk from Germany and I want to read articles in German or Turkish. Greeting, Shame-Ulullah

Only english for now. --Whale 19:03, 29 April 2009 (PDT)
Have you thought about contacting Dutch blogs, forums and websites and asking them if they want to create a Dutch wikilslam? Most Dutch people are good at English, so communication would be excellent and there are plenty of people who care about exposing the truth about Islam to the Netherlands and Belgium. M.vd 23:44, 28 September 2009 (PDT)
Hi M.vd, I havent, this is more than enough to make us busy and they're probably also busy, the dutch people. In netherlands, the Muslim population in 1 million (from wikipedia) and 700,000 in Belgium. Our priorities for multi-language would first be the big muslim countries and languages: Indonesia, Pakistan and Bangladesh (and in arabic) to start with. I had a change to start a wiki in Indonesian but I havent had time to look into it. --Whale 04:33, 29 September 2009 (PDT)
Wouldn't it be more of a question of finding enough Dutch people to write the wiki? A Dutch site would only require server space and a little administrative push from the people at the English WikiIslam. Besides that Dutch is an important language in a part of the Muslim world, in Indonesia many educated people still learn Dutch when they study jurisprudence or other subjects at the local universities. M.vd 07:00, 29 September 2009 (PDT)
Having an extra language does increase the administrative load for me as well (maintaining the software and everything) so it has to be justified and so, more popular languages have to done first ([1]: arabic, bengali, indonesian, farsi and urdu [Muslim languages ordered by population or speakers]). The total number of Dutch speakers is just 27 million ([2]), and only a few of them are Muslims. Our goal is to reach Muslims around the world first. Most dutch people I assume already have unfavorable views of Islam. Are you a site admin? You could translate a few important articles and that would good enough for now you will have done your part, trust me. --Whale 07:15, 29 September 2009 (PDT)
Maybe i should try to get many Dutch people together, so that we could write our own wiki. Translating articles might be a good idea. M.vd 22:31, 29 September 2009 (PDT)
I would really suggest that you spend the same time you plan on spending in finding someone in the Muslim languages I have mentioned above in italics because if its not any of those, I dont feel its important enough right now and I wont be able to spend any time on it. 1.6 million dutch speaking Muslims are a lot less important than 250 million arabic speaking muslims and so on. The rest of the dutch people are already aware of Islam. Its best to make sure your own time too is being utilized in something that would have more effect. I would suggest translate those few articles and put them on a static website and not a wiki for now. Do that and find a group of arabic or bengali or indonesian people and I'll help them out to have a sub-language here. --Whale 05:03, 30 September 2009 (PDT)
Hello whale and M.vd, I would also contribute in German and help translating, when the time comes. Azgyl 18:24, 24 January 2010 (PST)
Ok thanks. --Whale 08:01, 25 January 2010 (PST)

Sorry to barge in this way, I'm not quite sure if I'm allowed to, I'm still new on Wikiislam. Just thinking that I can offer French which we definitely will need as some point as it's spoken on 3 continents. I'm completely bilingual in English/French.I'm a professional translator into and from these 2 languages. I'm also a writer and a former English teacher. As far as Arabic is concerned, have you found people to help you out? I can ask some Arabic Christian friends who speak pretty good English. Kind regards--Emma 12:41, 7 October 2009 (PDT)

Hi Emma, welcome! Thats great that you're a professional translator, we're in luck. We could have a few chosen pages translated into french, say 5 or 10 and I wouldnt install a french wiki for now. I still want to reserve that effort for a major Muslim language for now. And that translation can be used later if we later decide to do a french wiki. What do you think? Now we just have to decide what those few pages should be that have to be translated. That I dont know, I guess we could pick out some real "shocking" pages. I can give you that list and maybe others can add in stuff too whatever they think is important.
No I havent asked any arabic people if anyone wants to runs an arabic wiki. But if they really want to get an arabic wiki started, I can do that yes as its a muslim language and it would be great to have an arabic wiki. Let me know if they want to do it. I can help with software and setup but they'll have to be ready to make a commitment of maintaining it. --Whale 19:13, 7 October 2009 (PDT)

[edit] broken crescent pic

I added the broken crescent picture to the testimonies section so that people can associate the SN pic with it (IYKWIM). Feel free to revert it if it's crap. Sanitarium 10:15, 16 September 2009 (PDT)

Looks great! --Whale 10:18, 16 September 2009 (PDT)

[edit] News

Whale, the news feed from FFI is including people's blog entries. Is there a way to not include those in the updates? I want to be able to write in my blog without YOU GUYS snooping on what I write :D :D.

Well that and I have no idea what language that top link is in, and much of the blog posts wont be 'breaking news'. Sanitarium 16:30, 9 November 2009 (PST)

Ah ok yea I saw that google-di-gook, it was tamil. I made it to Google news now which is not as good as FFI news but will do for now. --Whale 17:10, 9 November 2009 (PST)
Okay now there is a news item appearing there twice (the Russian one). Is that another problem with FFI's news? Sanitarium 17:42, 21 November 2009 (PST)
FFI news yea, we'll just have to wait till it passes. Likely an error made by an editor there. --Whale 18:35, 21 November 2009 (PST)

[edit] Link

Can someone give this link a good home? Islam-Watch.org:sexual-slavery-and-concubinage-in-islam

Done. --Whale 08:50, 28 November 2009 (PST)

[edit] Tell me

...please where can I buy a unicorn?

Wherever Muhammad purchased al-Buraq. --Gabe 12:26, 13 December 2009 (PST)
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