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Contents 1 Ibrawa obviously lying about Islam and its prophet 2 Hate-driven misinformation about Islam 3 Website 4 Why discredit Islam? 5 Please take your discussions to the forum 6 Directions 7 Breast suckling article 8 Hello 9 oh yeah

[edit] Ibrawa obviously lying about Islam and its prophet

It sounds ridiculous, but it´s true: In order to defend islam, Ibrawa propagated a lie about islam and mohammad:

There is no doubt in the whole islamic world that the hadith referred to is about suckling. Thus, we can conclude that you told lies about islam and it´s prophet. Maybe your intention was to defend islam, however, a lie remains a lie. So if you believe in islam, you are also supposed to believe that you will receive a severe punishment for your lies, don´t you? akira 7:20 (PDT)

[edit] Hate-driven misinformation about Islam

Ibrawa, your content below belongs more in a forum so I'm moving this to your talk page and infact you should note that this website is critical of Islam so your content doesnt belong here. Try using this in http://www.muslimwiki.com though, they would be glad to use your material. I'm leaving it here for you so you can use it on that website.

Most of the entries found on wikipedia regarding Islam are in fact no more than hate-driven misinformation and twisting of reality, courtesy of a cluster of vicious Jewish hate-mongers. I am led to wonder whether the animosity of Jews to Islam which is as old as Islam itself has anything to do with morality or ethics. For, on that score, Islam does not very much differ from Judaism. The Holy Quran is in various places a pristine reflection of the Torah and the Bible. The Jews in fact hate Islam,many would argue, for a rather mundane reason : It has denied them the status of Chosen People of God. For in Islam, humans are equal and are only differentiated in the sight of God according to their deeds, not their tribal affiliation, descent,language, culture,colour of skin or possessions. It is this simple notion, that the Jews are not a supreme human species as compared to the rest of us mere Gentiles, i.e subhuman lower cast, which stands at the root of the Jews'hatred to Islam and, hence their age-old disinfortmation campaign against it, as so well illustrated on the pages of Wikipedia.

--Whale ^talk contribs 17:48, 5 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Website

I've moved your comments to your talk page here. This website is obviously orchestrated by a gang of hate-mongers campagning against Islam. I believe they are criminals who should be brought to trial before an international court for crimes against humanity. Discrediting Islam will in no way help the image of the Jews in the eyes of the world. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ibrawa (talk • contribs). ( How to sign your posts. ?)

Once again, this website doesnt belong to Jews and even if it did, it doesnt help the fact that Muhammad married a 9 year old girl when he was 54 and was thus a pedophile and other similiar facts. Thanks to freedom of expression in the West, people can say whatever they want about Islam. Should'nt Muhammad be the one to be brought to a court of justice for murdering 900 Jews in the Banu Qurayza incident? --Whale ^talk contribs 07:04, 9 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Why discredit Islam?

History tells us that,for centuries on end, while it ruled almost uncontested over so many parts of the world, Islam honoured people of all other faiths and beliefs, irrespective of their colour, descent , language or culture. WikiIslam is no more than a vicious diatribe against this noble faith and its noble followers. Discrediting Islam however, will in no way uplift the image of the masterminds behind this website. And everyone knows who they are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ibrawa (talk • contribs). ( How to sign your posts. ?)

Islam honoured the faith of people by destroying their 360 idols in Kaaba? --Whale ^talk contribs 07:04, 9 June 2007 (PDT)

That was just the beginning. Islam destroyed great civilizations all over the world. This site should educate brainwashed people like Ibrawa. Soniaarora 14:40, 23 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Please take your discussions to the forum

For one, this website doesnt belong to the Jews. It belongs to Ali Sina, a former Muslim from Iran who doesnt have any religion now. Please dont use the talk pages of this website to defend Islam or make allegations that we are Jews. Use the FFI forum to discuss and defend pedophilia. --Whale ^talk contribs 07:10, 23 June 2007 (PDT)

Thank you for your message, but:

If this is a free-speech world then why wouldn't I be allowed to post my comments where I choose? I believe that, as my comments are in answer to a particular allegation, they should be on the same page.

Regarding Mr Ali Sina,the purported owner of this website, I seem to have spotted him somewhere in the left hand corner of the brain of the real orchestrator who stands behind this website! No real former Muslim could come up with such libelous allegations against Islam! And if this website is not run by Jews then why this exclusive obsession about the religion of Islam? Could we not have a similar(ie,as insulting and defamatory) page about Judaism? Or does the orchestrator fear being accused of antisemitism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ibrawa (talk • contribs). ( How to sign your posts. ?)

I've moved your comments here to your talk. Please sign your name and dont put spaces at the beginning of a new paragraph or it messes up the formatting. No real former Muslim would talk against Islam? How about Ali Sina and other ex-muslims? They all speak against Islam. This is WikiIslam, not WikiJudaism, thats why we talk only about Islam. Anything belongs in this site if its about the criticism of Islam. If you want to start an article say, about the common defects of Islam and Judaism, be my guest. You can reply here by clicking the edit button above. --Whale ^talk contribs 10:24, 23 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Directions

First of all, please read our guideline on discussions. Here's some directions on how to format text, please follow these:

1. Use the signature button above () at the end of your comments.
2. Dont create spaces at the beginning of a paragraph. That messes up the comments. If you want to have a new line, use two enters.
3. If your comment is directed to a user, leave it on their talk page, not on the user page or article's talk page. Use the article's talk page if it relates directly to the article.
4. Preview the text to make sure its coming out ok. If its not, make changed and then preview again.

Thats about it. If any of this is not clear, let me know. --Whale ^talk contribs 07:33, 24 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Breast suckling article

So my dear friends: my article is almost ready and you cannot prevent it anymore. But I do have some comforting words for you. You are great believers! You believe that you are believing in something. That´s why you try to hide the truth about it. Yeah! Here is a good peace of advice from me: If you truly believe in something, than you must hide the truth about it. Then it will prevail and last forever! Best regards akira 09:36 pdt

The article written to you by the so-called Akira, about breast suckling is simply aimed at spreading confusion. This quirk who goes by the name of Akira, did no more then read the title of the article she is referring to and then jump to the conclusion that Islam allows this practise. In fact, had she just removed her blinkers and read the entire article she would have found out that all scholars of Islam are agreed that it is forbidden. And, after all,what matters, if this Akira were really being honest and objective would have been to ask if this practise is found anywhere today in the Islamic world.

So, you see, Whale, your website is simply being abused and put to criminal use by brutes like Akira, as a platform for hate-mongers and detractors of the noble religion of Islam. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ibrawa (talk • contribs). ( How to sign your posts. ?)

Ibrawa, I moved your comments here to your talk. Pay attention to where you're posting comments and sign your talk pages from now. About that article, thats why I had asked for an english version so we can see what the article is saying. --Whale ^talk contribs 07:42, 24 June 2007 (PDT)

Hello, I have to say, my dear Ibrawa, that it is not acceptable to read insults against me or anybody else! By the way, I don´t have written the article yet so you cannot blame me for anything at all! All I said was that there are some articles and that there is much confusion. So please do not blame me for something I am not saying! And please stop insulting me! At last but not least I really like to say to the whole world that it is you and your efforts which are really, really encouraging me to write a very good article about this subject! About Islam and breast-suckling of adults in holy texts of islam! Thank you very, very much for your stimulation!!!! Akira 14:55, 24 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] Hello

Ibrawa, if I see any messed up comments from you from now on, I'll just revert them. You're not listening to what I'm saying, you're not signing on your talk pages. Also if you're replying to a topic, write below where the actual comment. This stuff is a little different from a forum. --Whale ^talk contribs 08:39, 24 June 2007 (PDT)

I reverted all your last 3 edits because you didnt follow the directions. Use Talk for talk (comments) and use the signature button to sign your name. A user page is for the user's information. Their talk page is for talking to them. See the difference? --Whale ^talk contribs 11:26, 24 June 2007 (PDT)

[edit] oh yeah

one small example: [1] Soniaarora 12:58, 24 June 2007 (PDT)